Subject	The agreement
Posted by	Blipman (Australia) on December 21, 2003 at 3:17 AM
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In Reply To	Exactly why I've never understood why so many people would.. posted by Sk8rlee on December 21, 2003 at 02:34 AM
Message	worked for a while but things became lax.... by the late 80's cars were being quoted at the 280ps limit but were certainly over it. The J-Spec Z engine, for example, is identical to US-spec in terms of power other than tuning (and they have BETTER fuel in Japan) and a LACK of precats. Since US dynos are different to Australian ones it's never been possible to do a direct stock US vs. J-Spec comparison, but I would think a J-spec is at least at the same power level as a US one, if not marginally more. Late 90's cars were becoming a little bit more obvious, with as usual the 280ps quoted output but dyno figures suggesting mid to high 300's being more realistic, some of the special edition R34's being noteable examples. Another situation most people cite is the R34 GT-t with quoted 280ps, and the R34 GTR also at quoted 280ps. Hmmm... you'd think the extra turbo and 100cc would do something, wouldn't you? It seems manufacturers are soon to just be a little more blatant about their power output figures with a lot of cars currently in development having realistic figures claimed..... a few are claiming 400ps or thereabouts, with some of the more expensive stuff hinting at bigger outputs than that. Ben Australian 300ZX Owners Association
Follow Ups	Here's a good discussion ( Japan's gentlemen's agreement ) - ZBlacktt 02:17:42 12/21/03 Exactly why I've never understood why so many people would.. - Sk8rlee 02:34:48 12/21/03 The agreement - Blipman (Australia) 03:17:58 12/21/03 Actually, doesn't the jspec engine have the same smaller - boileralum 13:21:56 12/21/03 I cannont speak to the cam question, but ... - Guapo 13:40:32 12/21/03 Glad you could answer that - Blipman (Australia) 03:32:48 12/22/03 the cams are the same as US autos - 3 double-0 ZX(Va Bch) 16:12:08 12/21/03 It's no problem. Its not just the motor that makes the HP. - DVDBURN (MD) 10:46:25 12/21/03 it isnt a law - big gixx 02:42:51 12/21/03 2nd.. unlike us they actually have respect for their culture (n/m) - MaxBoostTT 02:45:57 12/21/03 however... what i do find funny - big gixx 02:52:56 12/21/03 and they attack the world like no other w/ After-market - ZBlacktt 03:43:15 12/21/03 DSM wasn't a tuner in any way... - J.R. (phx) 07:24:45 12/21/03 Oh, and Ralliart is Mitsu's in-house tuner... (n/m) - J.R. (phx) 07:38:49 12/21/03 While they can be deemed "tuners" - NytWolf 11:49:12 12/21/03 Couldve sworn Skunkworks was affiliated with Lockheed Martin (n/m) - vitaminz 15:26:55 12/21/03 they now limit the top speed of the busa to - dans300 19:46:32 12/21/03 Awh, basically they lie and don't Dyno the cars - ZBlacktt 03:19:36 12/21/03 They made a law of Motor ouput on fishing boats :) - ZBlacktt 03:48:25 12/21/03 That's funny--I've always been under the impression that - Big_Ron 03:40:39 12/21/03 Yeah i heard that too, long time ago - northZ 07:55:58 12/21/03 taxes or laws, who cares? The fact is that the JDM motors - Ieatv8s 09:38:23 12/21/03 Re: taxes or laws, who cares? The fact is that the JDM motors - Sportzcoop 10:09:06 12/21/03 30,000 miles? - zboost 11:38:30 12/21/03 I read somewhere (a long time ago) - NytWolf 11:41:31 12/21/03 Re: I read somewhere (a long time ago) - merlin3 18:45:10 12/21/03 Because they avg. a lot of stop and go miles - ZBlacktt 23:24:09 12/21/03 Doing the same thing with cycles now, nothing over 200mph - MugenRacer 00:15:16 12/22/03
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